I've heard a lot of people say that killing an animal to put it out of it's misery is a 'good' thing. Now maybe it is and maybe it isn't... but doesn't is seem odd that to us as a species our answers always take the 'easy way' out... sure it is easier to destroy something than create it... what do you think about this G.W.?

I'm a lapsed vegetarian who still rejects "the meat industry." I live with two cats. We have cat doors. I've carried too many half-dead critters to some quiet part of my large yard in hopes they might finish dying "in peace." I like King of the Hill. I don't think I'll ever be able to finish killing a wild thing that my cats brought to me, but I respect a human being's right to choose their own death.

But maybe that's not exactly what you meant by your question

since we're talking about this

what gets me is how the preditors are always the bad guys in a movie

when in reality the preditors are only doing what they have to do to live

I dont know much theology so i wont join your little arguement over religion the soul, and the creator's limits on our 'mortality'. I do have one thing to say though, to truely stop aging we would need to stop gravity, and that is impossible. However, when it comes to the mind i have a bit more knowledge.

The mind has a scientific study, ever heard of Psychology? PSychology studies behavior and a crucial part of that is the operation of our psychi(sp?), yes it involves the brain, but it does not necessarily study it. Thats Neurology.

Now, the mind and the body are one. Period. It was believed that they were seperate for 2,000 years, until William Wundt disproved it with a simple experiment(also showing that the brain was the center of knowledge). To continue, we have theories(pretty accurate ones) about how the mind works. Several theories agree with each other and have shown that if they are aplied correctly a they can control anyones behavior perfectly. However, it is all theory, a lot of this stuff is hard to prove because all the researchers become biased or at least expective of the result. They see what they want to see, basically. Plus, all of this gets bogged down in the complex statistics theories and positive and negative correlation.

To go off farther on a tangent I must bring to your attention that good and evil are NOT states of emotion. Rather they are part of our perceptive concience. Named by Freud as a 'super ego'. This is our shouler angel, the thing that tells us when something is immoral. However, morallity is often not the best way to go in our world. We just dont have the time anymore to really double guess ourselves. So then comes the 'ego', having an 'ego is not a bad thing. This is our true concience the blancing force the thing that tells us what is best for us to do. It takes in the evil option of pure pleasure, and the good option of conservation and it moderates in the real world and boom you get your behavioral output. Now that just one theory, psychoanalism. It is quite complex and has been disproven quite a few times, especially Freuds 'stages' of developement. However, this part is widely accepted, except by behavioralists.

As for the morality of killing something in pain, i dont think it is the right thing to do. It is a defense mechanism, we just dont like to see suffering, in any creature. So we choose to end its life for our benifit more than for that creatures.

Funny how we hate violance, but we cause so much destruction everyday.

the mind is the center of intellect

but the heart is where the soul lives

Maybe, who knows.

i am getting this one from the bible

and when a loved one dumps you or dies what part of the body hurts

Is it my imagination or is this thread winding down into discussion of fine details of less interest?

if you think so mystik pick a new topic

by the way what was the original topic

i am beginning to think that the battle between good and evil on a personal lvl

is the battle of the soul vs the animal

by the way what was the original topic

The original topic was a vague but clever question about law. Regardless of that, the thread is called 'the meaning of it all' so i guess that qualifies as a 'free for all' talk about anything... except for things like your mothers knitting techniue i guess hehehe.

ha ha ha

Yes, it has degenerated a bit. And the fact that your heart hurts is actually because usually death causes depression, when your depresed the body tries to release a bunch of diffrent chemicals to balance itself. This sometimes cause the 'ache' you feel.

then why doesn't your brain hurt

becouse the heart controls emotions not the brain

There have been some interesting topics brought up, such as how the universe began, the nature of light, the nature of God etc etc.

Putting it altogether in my mind i came up with a new idea, assuming allot that i shouldn't assume, but what the heck....

Ok the big bang happened because that is when time began. Time beginning of course enabled matter and energy and all the rest of it to interact and BANG!

Time however being relative, in other words time only exists from our perspective, so for any being outside of time, IE God, you could say that the big bang never really happened because everything already is whatever it is or is going to be all at once!

eeegad, somone pass me the asprin!

Anyway, so then to the question of fate, if everything has already happened then can we change anything? I say yes!

The original topic was a vague but clever question about law.