I'm just experimenting. I hate the word "blog" and am fascinated with how the net seems to nurture *everyone's* vanity.
dedicated to Evil Stormbringer and Wheeloffire
Published on January 17, 2007 By Philocthetes In Off-Topic
Evil did me right by starting his own thread on the "what's a thief" question. But a few posts later in that Grammar nazi sprawl thread, QuietlyObserving says "If we are to be a society founded on the Rule of Law, it would be prudent to maintain a healthy respect for language and the meaning of words, lest we slip into a dictatorship of unelected Judges."

This gives me a painfully beautiful opportunity to start a sister thread to Evil's, and ask you all to sink your fangs, fingers, etc., into the basic question "How does a law rule without a human to interpret and/or execute it?"

That's my latest hasty attempt at a longstanding interest in the gov't-of-law-and-not-men notion that's very popular here in the US. I've also known a few linguists and flirted with other philosphies enough to be taken aback by anyone who has too much certainty about the meaning of a particular word or phrase.

Unless you're a minor with parents who don't want you seeing PG-13 movies (I know we have some sharp youth out there, just want to respect your folks), I suggest finding and playing fword.wav before you finish a reply here.
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on Jan 18, 2007
If light is matter as well as energy does it weigh anything?
on Jan 19, 2007
yes

light is a wave and a particle

there was no light in the universe for 100,000,000 years after the big bang becouse there was no matter just energy

so according to big bang theory there was no light and then there was big bang

according to genesis god said "let there be light" ie at one point there was no light and there was light ie big bang
on Jan 19, 2007
Danielost, I personally do not see that point (Let there be Light) as the point at which the 'Big Bang' occurred (although it did initiate it).

This is where I believe it happened:

Ge 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Ge 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Ge 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

This is where 'space' began its expansion - which would be the 'Bang' part of it.


The first 'day' - Let there be Light - would have imposed a particle nature, which would have prompted the 'expansion' of the second 'day'.

A point would have become a point-particle; time begins and expresses itself as the force of expansion.
on Jan 19, 2007
there is only one problem there is no such thing as time

think about a bacteria it lives it's whole life in a matter of minutes of our minutes

big bang darkness to light

god's command let there be light also darkness to light

and for the question about whether or not light has wieght if light didn't have wieght then gravity wouldn't affect it

i draw your attention to black holes


on Jan 19, 2007
If light is matter as well as energy does it weigh anything?


NO

Light demonstrates properties of particles and waves, but it cannot 'weigh anything' because it has no mass. If it had any mass, it would be unable to travel at the 'speed of light'.

It is not accurate to describe light as 'matter', since it has no mass.

and for the question about whether or not light has wieght if light didn't have wieght then gravity wouldn't affect it


I direct your attention to Einstein's theories and the description of gravity as the warping of space-time. Light is affected by gravity because it's 'straight' path follows curved space.
on Jan 19, 2007
and what curves space only gravity
on Jan 19, 2007
Perhaps. Your point?
on Jan 19, 2007
light is made up of particles

particles have wieght

the earths gravity bends light just slightly becouse of the space warp coused by said gravity

and everyone knows

that gravity is so strong in a black hole that light cannot escape

and

light also acts as energy

so light is both energy and matter or at least acts as it is both
on Jan 19, 2007
light is made up of particles

particles have wieght


Photons are massless particles. Therefore they have no 'weight'.
on Jan 19, 2007
that gravity is so strong in a black hole that light cannot escape


You say that like its proof that light must have weight in order for that to happen, which just isn't true.

Light cannot escape a black hole because the curvature of space-time is so severe. It's like a 'hole' in space.

or at least acts as it is both


This is closer to the truth. As I said before, light demonstrates properties of both particles and waves.
on Jan 19, 2007
Forgive the layperson language, but isn't the light wave/particle thing part of how the heavy math crowd started talking about the Heisenberg uncertainty principle?

In other words, doesn't whether light "looks like" a wave or a particle depend on your observation technique?
on Jan 19, 2007
one thing to remember is that time does not exist or that it is relitive


for example

the solar system is 4.5 billion earth years old

however

it is
18 billion mercury years old
7.2 billion venus years old
2.385 billion mars years old
360 million jupiter years old
135 million saturn years old
11 million uranis years old

in other words time doesn't exist it is just here to keep everything from happening at the same time

the only thing that warps space is gravity



on Jan 19, 2007
In other words, doesn't whether light "looks like" a wave or a particle depend on your observation technique?


Yes. I believe that light is neither particle nor wave, but rather is something else that hasn't truly been classified. The reason we state that it demonstrates the properties of a particle in some instances and a wave in others is because that is the easiest way to describe it within our current understanding of the universe.
on Jan 19, 2007
in other words time doesn't exist it is just here to keep everything from happening at the same time


That's a funny statement.

How can it be there and do something if it does not exist?

on Jan 20, 2007
Exactly my point in asking that question, so light isnt matter, were back where we began. Plus it is inacurate to say that there was nothing else before the big bang, because there are stars older than the universe. Therefore there was some kind of matter or light or something before the big bang.
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