The meaning of it all

dedicated to Evil Stormbringer and Wheeloffire

Published on January 17, 2007 By Philocthetes In Off-Topic

Evil did me right by starting his own thread on the "what's a thief" question. But a few posts later in that Grammar nazi sprawl thread, QuietlyObserving says "If we are to be a society founded on the Rule of Law, it would be prudent to maintain a healthy respect for language and the meaning of words, lest we slip into a dictatorship of unelected Judges."

This gives me a painfully beautiful opportunity to start a sister thread to Evil's, and ask you all to sink your fangs, fingers, etc., into the basic question "How does a law rule without a human to interpret and/or execute it?"

That's my latest hasty attempt at a longstanding interest in the gov't-of-law-and-not-men notion that's very popular here in the US. I've also known a few linguists and flirted with other philosphies enough to be taken aback by anyone who has too much certainty about the meaning of a particular word or phrase.

Unless you're a minor with parents who don't want you seeing PG-13 movies (I know we have some sharp youth out there, just want to respect your folks), I suggest finding and playing fword.wav before you finish a reply here.

Comments (Page 19)

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danielost

on Jan 28, 2007

well maybe epilepsy mimicks a demon possesion then

what i am saying is some people really are sick and some people may be possesed and the normal human wouldn't know

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TheGreatEmperor

on Jan 28, 2007

Epilepsy cant mimick things, its a concept not a thing that can accomplish actions. Its a mental disorder, nothing more nothing less, back then it was viwed as such because people just did not know enough. I mean the things they did to those who were even a little mentally disabled, were horendous. The experiments, the discrimination was just horrible. And it didnt improve untill about 50 years ago, although people fought it for over 150. The abuse those who are different from us should not be a teaching of faith, but a lot of times it is.

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Skigi

on Jan 28, 2007

well maybe epilepsy mimicks a demon possesion then

what i am saying is some people really are sick and some people may be possesed and the normal human wouldn't know

Or the illness was first created by that.
The point is, we don't know, and does it really matter if it was a demon or epilepsy? Either way, it was healed. Some things you don't need to really know exactly, it just happened. It's there because it was miraculous, whether it was sickness or demon it doesn't matter.

BTW, it's spelled Mormon.

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TheGreatEmperor

on Jan 28, 2007

We dont know if it happened, we just know that is what was writen in the Bible. But, that doesnt necessarily make it true.

I mean the Bible preached the world was the center of the universe, and Galileo was thrown out of the churches grace, and was apparently sent to hell. And i think about 5 years ago, the Church finally admited they were wrong, now thats being stuborn

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danielost

on Jan 28, 2007

where in the bible does it say that the earth was the center of the universe

cathlic church did but the bible doesn't

but the dark ages was brought about by the cathilic church also

the church controlled the people by limiting education

and that was the real reason galileo and others where doomed

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Mystikmind

on Jan 28, 2007

but the dark ages was brought about by the cathilic church also

the church controlled the people by limiting education

and that was the real reason galileo and others where doomed

The dark ages were brought about by the colapse of the Roman empire.

I think the Catholic church of the past reminds me allot of the former Taliban regime in Afganistan, limiting education, being totally intollerant of other faiths and ways of living, and be willing to take extreme measures to get things done.

My point being that any faith can end up with an established power that is totally off balance from the true heart of the faith.

I guess thats why the world is becomming more and more sinical towards any kind of 'religious' governments.

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danielost

on Jan 28, 2007

right the dark ages came after the fall of the roman empire

but the cathilic church controlled all education after the fall

and the dark ages is called the dark ages becouse of lack of education

and we have one more religious government to go before the return of christ

and the body for that government is already here it is called the united nations

278

Mystikmind

on Jan 28, 2007

and we have one more religious government to go before the return of christ

and the body for that government is already here it is called the united nations

No, actually the one world government will be established by a 'hero'. It makes perfect sense to me, that if you want to take over the world, you first have to besiege the world with strife and then come along and save it.

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danielost

on Jan 28, 2007

the united nations has an upc seal for humans it starts with 666

by the way the united states is entering its own dark ages becouse the public schools are controlled by the union and guess who controls the union

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TheGreatEmperor

on Jan 28, 2007

AHAHA!!

You cant be serious. The UN is a joke, plain and simple. Even the nations that founded it dont follow its rules. All of that 'council' is made of is corrupt politicians that have no want to better the world, they are just there to complain. Its so called security council sets laws for all of its members to follow, but when one is broken all they get is a finger waging and a stern lecture. Plus, its contorled completly by those who have 'reserved' seats, and the lower house does not have any power.

If that is supposed to be our future government, than i feel sorry for the future.

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Mystikmind

on Jan 28, 2007

Unions?? ahem, anyway, it is apparrant that society is running into some majour problems, education being one of the bigger ones.

If i was to imagine it was my job to take over the world, i would look for weaknesses to manipulate. I would look for ways to create conflict and division.

So if you look at what is happening in the world today, it is quite apparant that there is pressure worldwide to create a rift between Islam and the west. So far good people on both sides are still holding things together on that front.
Islam is the one majour pillar of stubborn virtue in the world that would stand against the anticrist, so i believe Islam is under heavy attack, and i think the biggest threat comes from i'ts own achillies heel of intollerance. Intollerance that can be manipulated to stir up more and more hatred in the world until one day everything erupts and then the sneaky 'hero' can do his thing and fool us all.

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Mystikmind

on Jan 28, 2007

You cant be serious. The UN is a joke, plain and simple

True, and the reason it is a joke is a very important one.... All the easier to get it replaced! The united nations is another thing that would get in the way of the Antichrist, so that is why it is being kept down, weak and powerless.

See, you just have too think along the lines of what needs to be done in order to take over the world, and you can see it all happening right now, today!

NB, gee i hope 'Pinky and the brain' don't read this and get ideas!! hehehe

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danielost

on Jan 28, 2007

well in either case i think the usa should pull out of the united nations

oh by the way when the mark of the beast is first offered

the beast will make it sound like a good idea

ie with this mark no one will ever be able to get lost in the woods without the authorities being able to find them

no one will be able to rob you becouse you will no longer carry cash with you

no one will be able to kidnap anyone becouse the police will be able to track said person

i think you get the idea

oh and by the way why replace something when you can just take control of it and stop making it a laughing stock

a lot easier to take over than to start over

and you are right

and the one to watch out for is the one who brings about peace in the middle east

sad but that is the antichrist

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Mystikmind

on Jan 28, 2007

oh and by the way why replace something when you can just take control of it and stop making it a laughing stock

a lot easier to take over than to start over

Possible true, but human nature being what it is, people are more likely to be more excited to follow somthing new. The 'hero' i mention will bring somthing new and exciting to the table.

As for the mark of the beast, i am beginning to wonder if it will end up being your own genes? I mean i cannot think of any better way of truely keeping track of an entire population than with their own genetic codes? And perhaps taking the mark of the beast is to allow your genes to be coded into a computer?

Just a thought?

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danielost

on Jan 28, 2007

the mark of the beast is already in use

we use it for cats and dogs

the only difference is that the human version will have a gps unit on it

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