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Published on January 17, 2007 By Philocthetes In Off-Topic
Evil did me right by starting his own thread on the "what's a thief" question. But a few posts later in that Grammar nazi sprawl thread, QuietlyObserving says "If we are to be a society founded on the Rule of Law, it would be prudent to maintain a healthy respect for language and the meaning of words, lest we slip into a dictatorship of unelected Judges."

This gives me a painfully beautiful opportunity to start a sister thread to Evil's, and ask you all to sink your fangs, fingers, etc., into the basic question "How does a law rule without a human to interpret and/or execute it?"

That's my latest hasty attempt at a longstanding interest in the gov't-of-law-and-not-men notion that's very popular here in the US. I've also known a few linguists and flirted with other philosphies enough to be taken aback by anyone who has too much certainty about the meaning of a particular word or phrase.

Unless you're a minor with parents who don't want you seeing PG-13 movies (I know we have some sharp youth out there, just want to respect your folks), I suggest finding and playing fword.wav before you finish a reply here.
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on Feb 12, 2007
flight uses less energy than walking if you are built right

but i don't see a t-rex flying


Yes there are all kinds of advantages to flight once you have it in play. But what i am wondering, is how does flight actually start? what is the natural cause to start flight?

My above examples of jumping and climbing have natural causes that lead to better jumping and climbing... but i mean even a mutation providing some kind of superior elevating ability is not going to encourage flight. because limbs would still be the primary natural cause.
on Feb 12, 2007
See, we have the general idea of how to form DNA. We could "theoretically" do so. However, we can not recreate the process that started life originally. It requires too much energy, and without fusion i dont see us doing anything like it anytime soon. That process did purely happen by chance, one of two things happened.
A)Huge solar storm hitting our planet while its magnetic shiels were not fully developed. This is a widely supported theory, and has been generally proven, because there is protocell like organisms that keep poping up in the hotest and most inhospitable places in the world.

B)Some super actually *created* us. I dont support this theory largely on the basis of paranio. What would such a powerful being want with us?

Flying developed most likely from the absence of large bodies of land, and/or the growth of trees that became inclimable.

on Feb 12, 2007
with the exemption of insects and one lizard you are right all other flying animals have given up use of the front limbs for walking or at least walking well as in the case of bats
on Feb 12, 2007
because there is protocell like organisms that keep poping up in the hotest and most inhospitable places in the world.



the key word in all of this is cell you can't have life without a cell and you cant have a cell without life
B)Some super actually *created* us. I dont support this theory largely on the basis of paranio. What would such a powerful being want with us?




to give us a chance at life

i haven't wanted to do this but i remember what my first thought was

i had it the day i was born "SO THIS IS LIFE!!!"

ok now all of you can call me crazy but this means that there was something before life and it isn't considered to be life


on the flight thing i forgot about a snake that glides too






on Feb 12, 2007
on the flight thing i forgot about a snake that glides too


Flying developed most likely from the absence of large bodies of land, and/or the growth of trees that became inclimable


Yes yes yes,,, buuuuut how did flying get off the ground initially in the first place?

on Feb 12, 2007
First, assuming that by law we mean laws made by humans to govern human activities:

"How does a law rule without a human to interpret and/or execute it?"

A law doesn't rule, people enforcing a law rule. Laws are simply sets of enumerated restrictions with penalties attached, and "breaking" a law means that the society you are in has agreed that you will suffer a penalty for your actions.

That might sound like a narrow definition, but it is really quite expansive in application. For instance, we have laws that restrict people's ability to freely kill or steal, and if they do those things we impose a penalty (incarceration or death). But take any kind of law. Break a parking law and you are subject to a fine. Break a contract law and it is the same. Break a moral law and (some believe) you will be punished in the afterlife. So we have a series of restrictions with penalties attached.

Note: I think restrictions are a good thing. We do not want everyone to be free to kill whenever they like. But call a spade a spade. I'm also a lawyer, so this whole topic is close to home

But for a law to be effective, penalties must actually be followed through. For a short time, the threat of a penalty will keep people following laws even if there is no penalty... for just as long as people still believe there is a penalty attached. But if city governments stopped issuing parking tickets, after a while no one would follow parking signs. A "law" that isn't enforced isn't really a law at all, it is just something that looks like a law, it is law-ish.

A UN resolution is another good example. They look a lot like laws. They have code sections and are ratified and have most of the trappings of a law. But they have no enforcement. With no penalty, nations break UN "laws" whenever it is convenient. The only time a UN resolution is effective is when it is attached to economic sanctions or the deployment of troops.

Going back to the original question, humans don't "execute" laws, they enforce the penalties. If no one enforces the penalty, the law doesn't exist. It goes from being a restriction on activity to... a suggestion. A monologue on suggested restrictions or courses of action. But because it doesn't actually restrict activity, it is not really a true law.



on Feb 12, 2007
i agree here in waco the police do not enforce stopping at red lights

i got it straight from a waco officer that he would rather clean up the accident so that he can do something else besides feel out the paper work for a traffic ticket

it has gotten so bad that the city is now putting up signs asking people not to run red lights
on Feb 12, 2007
flying may have gotten started not by getting off of the ground but getting out of the trees

that is what the gliders are doing it for
on Feb 12, 2007
I find all of law enforcement quite a funny principal. They use one of the most advaced tricks in the psychology book. The term is random quantity negative reinforcement. Something that pretty makes sure crime stays low. Now we will never stop the real criminals, those will always happen, that why we have to police. But, the average citizen is actually in fear of breaking the law, even though their chances of being caught at breaking one of the lesser laws are low enough for them to escape clean.
on Feb 12, 2007
here is a question

and yes i do know the answer to it


why do we shake hands
on Feb 13, 2007
I dont know,

But what I do know is the fact shaking hands transfers more germs than kissing someone.
on Feb 13, 2007
But what I do know is the fact shaking hands transfers more germs than kissing someone.


no.

shaking hands does not transfer germs. it is what you do with your hands afterwards that determines what germs are transfered. Whereas kissing is an instantaneous transfer of germs.

you could just as easily say that walking transfers more germs than kissing but that is irrelevant as well unless you like to lick the bottom of your shoe!
on Feb 13, 2007
my question should have been why did we start shaking hands

it is also the same reason american indians used to raise their right hands in greeting

when they said hi (can't spell the indian word right now sorry)
on Feb 13, 2007
Germs are on your body right at this moment, there isnt one millimeter of your body not covered in some other organism. So when you touch anything your transfering germs. While your mouth is actually one of the cleanest places in your body because of spit.
on Feb 14, 2007
ok the reason for shaking hands or raising it in greeting is to prove that you are not armed

the reason it is the right hand is becouse most people are right handed
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