I'm just experimenting. I hate the word "blog" and am fascinated with how the net seems to nurture *everyone's* vanity.
And don't you think this n-word should be less common so we fear it rightly?
Published on December 17, 2006 By Philocthetes In Off-Topic
I don't have math for it, but I know that both my reading and posting on these forums have been on steady upward curves. One of the things that increased my interest in posting was the regular "grammar nazi" talk, and that's in no small part because I'm head of a single income household and I work as an editor and writer on the periphery of IT Land.

So, for any of you who have declared or discretely held "grammar nazi" sympathies, please hold forth on your notions of standards, community, and efficiency.

I'm particularly curious about a few folks who appear to have abandoned "consistent" responses to formal writing errors. If you've noticed that you no longer take every opportunity to correct a post on this forum, why is this so? Have you simply become exhausted by the overwhelming barrage of "bad" English available today, or have you started "picking your battles?" If the latter is at least half true, tell us about your choice criteria, please.
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on Dec 18, 2006
Did I mis-spell anything?
on Dec 18, 2006
How about spelling no one as 'noone'?

Noone is NOT a word.
on Dec 18, 2006
However, Peter Noone of Herman's Hermits might argue with you.
on Dec 18, 2006
That is a person's name, so it doesn't apply in this context.
on Dec 18, 2006
[shameless plug]

Fire Fox 2 has built in spell checking!

[/shameless plug]
on Dec 18, 2006
Which still won't catch the mistakes like there, their, and they're.
Two, to, and too (also, as well).

Etc...
etc...


Sometimes I wonder what they teach in school these days.

Maybe it is just a general dumbing down because of computers and spell checkers.
Maybe standards have been lowered a little too much, catering to the lowest common denominator? Can't make anyone feel dumb, so lower the standards so everyone can feel smart? Don't make anything really matter anymore?

I dunno, maybe I am just getting old.


Ah, the good ol' days...


Nothing like a good sit back and READ what you have written, before hitting the 'Post Comment' button.
on Dec 18, 2006
I think that one should formost keep in mind that the context of the post is most important. Second in importance is that the post be understandable related to the context they are addressing. Third, one should write the best English one knows. A responder should respond in like manner, meaning that correcting English, whether spelling or grammar should be as part of a post, not the point of the post.
on Dec 18, 2006
Say that to someone who lived in one of the European countries overrun by Germany during WWII and see how long it takes for them to punch you in the nose. Then read up on your history of the Third Reich.


Rent The Believer.
on Dec 18, 2006
I think "grammar nazi's", or people who have been taught to speak reasonable English (whichever you prefer), tend to only really go off when somebody either A)hit's a peeve such as Wheel's 'moral' or B)The English is so horrendous that it truly retracts from the post. When I see a single spelling mistake that's not a game term, I usually just let it slip; however, when there are profuse grammatical errors, I take the person's post all that less seriously. If you can take the time to think of an idea that's worth writing, you can take the extra minute's worth of time to put it in decent enough English. Also, it's usually pretty clear when somebody is not native to the English language versus someone who has twelve year old instant messenger grammar. The former usually misplaces an article, or makes some mistake based on how the Latin context would sound. The latter usually avoids using punctuation, complete sentences, and honestly they actually make more spelling errors (which I think is sad).
on Dec 18, 2006
"...well, they wanted some more land"


Say that to someone who lived in one of the European countries overrun by Germany during WWII and see how long it takes for them to punch you in the nose. Then read up on your history of the Third Reich.


I get the feeling that i've read more books about the history of Europe and it's major wars than you have. Think about it, when someone says "nazi" you think holocaust. I mean, nobody gets mad when you talk about Austrio-hungary doing all the things that lead up to the first world war. It's simply that the nazis did something waaaaaaaay over the top and now we act like they're the spawns of the devil. Now this isn't to say I support them, not at all, but simply how we react to certain words(i.e. "terrorist").

Sorry if I pushed a few buttons but I simply had to get that off my chest.

-Spencer

on Dec 18, 2006
Think about it, when someone says "nazi" you think holocaust.


Actually, I don't.

I think the real problems the word Nazi has is its association with Hitler the man more than anything else.

One thing I don't always follow about current catchphrases, is how sometimes different words are used as descriptive of similar behavior. Why isn't it fashion police instead of fashion nazi? And why is it grammar nazi instead of grammar police?
on Dec 18, 2006
* sorry, double post. seems you have to wait a few minutes before edit button appears *

And I see in my haste I messed up the comparison, I meant to say "Why is it fashion police instead of..."
on Dec 18, 2006
Why isn't it fashion police instead of fashion nazi? And why is it grammar nazi instead of grammar police?


An even more perplexing question:

What do you do in the wintertime when the sun gets cold?
on Dec 18, 2006
What do you do in the wintertime when the sun gets cold?


*blink blink*
ouch, brain hurt
on Dec 18, 2006
i tend to notice errors in grammar, spelling, etc. (i don't capitalize because i think it lends an air of subtlety), but i haven't mentioned it in a post in quite some time. i was 16 or 17. i'd say i changed simply by maturing. i make mistakes often enough, and i think forums feel more like conversation (rife with errors that are as much convention) than it does professional discourse. finally, i simply don't care. it's a video game. i could spend my time criticizing others for grammar, or i could spend my time doing something fun. and in the long run, a single maniacal post on a video game website isn't going to cause a revolution in the usage of english.
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